efka-zoi said: Hi there. So as a fellow Spiro fan and someone who also rates the third book as their favourite I'm surprised at how widespread the whole paedophile!Spiro reading is. I can certainly see why people might interpret him that way (I've written it a few times) but it's surprising to me how many people seem to get that just from canon. Can I ask what in canon gave you that impression?
Well, me and Cyberphuk were thinking about it, and
1) He treats Artemis, the 13 year old, as both a child, and an adult. Which gives off this strange, creepy vibe.
2) It’s implied he watched Artemis in the shower, or at least saw him naked, page 196 on the pdf I have. Although it’s sort of justified, it’s still…yeah.
3) He gets what he wants regardless of morals. He has none. He has no qualms stealing from Artemis, kidnapping him, or just generally lording over this minor.
4) Old white American man with money, duh (okay that’s a joke).
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yes,yes, all of this yes!
thank you for putting it into the words that i couldn’t. this is it exactly.
also its been a long while since iv’e read it, but doesn’t he get kinda touchy at points too? i honestly cant remember but i think he does at least once or twice hold artemis by the shoulders. unless im just imagining it
I NEED TO REREAD THE BOOK BECAUSE THAT DOES SOUND FAMILIAR OH MY GOD
I really wanna read pedo!Spiro stories now ;_;
Oh yeah, he is very physical with Artemis, that’s another point. But again, I feel it’s more about asserting dominance by invading personal space than a specifically sexual action.
I really need to get off my ass and finish my Spiro fic.
Admittedly, I SERIOUSLY doubt it’s canon. Like, implied, maybe, but I doubt Eoin, even if this was a higher level in terms of young adult fiction, would flat out make him a pedo.
But I want to make this absolutely fanon. I just really want that.
it did feel implied to me,reading it again as an older person and really thinking about spiros actions toward artemis. a lot of it did come off as power play, and it made me extremely uncomfortable, in a way that just screamed ” if this were an adult book spiro would probably be a sexual predator”. spiro was all about power and dominace and being better than those he considered beneath him (which he considered artemis, a child,to be) and he seemed like he would us sexual advances to get power, if he could get away with it
I check the AF tag after ages and this is what I see. I’m so proud of you all. Anyways Spiro always made me uncomfortable, and I just recalled some quotes as to why so I dug out my Eternity Code and here they are:
"Blunt patted Artemis on the head. ‘I don’t know what happened in that London restaurant, but you try anything like that here, and I will turn you inside out and eat your organs.’ He gnashed his pointy teeth to make the point and leaned close, whispering into Artemis’s ear. Artemis could hear the teeth click with every syllable."
Yeah that’s gross. And not only did he spy on Artemis in the shower, the robe he gave him had Spiro’s initials on it, “reminding him of his presence”
Sprio is the best villian